tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441824499938029576.post5312210693641280245..comments2023-08-05T09:34:00.699-07:00Comments on I SEE LEAD PEOPLE: More Bouncing IdeasEli Arndthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10445801567500822187noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441824499938029576.post-31406666090450088252011-05-05T13:09:22.358-07:002011-05-05T13:09:22.358-07:00I like that "seeking Carthaginian refugees&qu...I like that "seeking Carthaginian refugees" idea.J Womack, Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14400879353685357966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441824499938029576.post-85641680472071688022011-05-05T07:11:01.769-07:002011-05-05T07:11:01.769-07:00Run it as an established colony, using harsh consc...Run it as an established colony, using harsh conscription to maintain an understrength legion supported by client Amerindian tribe auxiliaries, seeking better/more agricultural land.<br /><br />I would have to fast forward to the Seven Years War, though, so I could have the Gaul, Indian and Roman war.Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03188043128640438712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441824499938029576.post-84781919687010562622011-05-04T23:53:40.197-07:002011-05-04T23:53:40.197-07:00To be convincingly blown off course without subseq...To be convincingly blown off course without subsequently turning back you'd need one heck of a long, consistent contrary blow, and the prevailing winds are against you. Maybe one could come up with some volcano event or shift in ocean currents that reverses the winds for a season -- but once you get to that point of messing with the world I'd be inclined to have the current shift caused by the rise of Rlyeh or Atlantis. You don't want them sailing deliberately in that direction for narrative reasons? I think they're biggest problem will be drinking water: transporting enough for 2 months is hard. But they could be exploring deliberately and just deeply wrong about their destination. Round Earth theories are certainly old enough. They could be pursuing an enemy or following rumours of an ally. They could be seeking the Basques or on a paranoid emperor's errand to stop mythical reinforcements from a secret rival Empire of I dunno, Phoenicians or Carthaginian exiles or bull-men or anything.richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13517340075234811323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441824499938029576.post-74587556515280703142011-05-04T18:32:50.416-07:002011-05-04T18:32:50.416-07:00Hardest thing to figure is how you get a large eno...Hardest thing to figure is how you get a large enough force over there through anythign other than a planned expidition and then if you do that, why?Eli Arndthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10445801567500822187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441824499938029576.post-1006634927685111752011-05-04T16:16:54.754-07:002011-05-04T16:16:54.754-07:00I'd also point out that the tactics used by th...I'd also point out that the tactics used by the Picts to successfully keep the Romans out of what is now modern Scotland mirror very closely the sort of tactics I imagine a First Peoples tribe adopting to fight the advancing legions: night attacks, firing tents, slitting throats, burn't earth tactics, "native guides" leading century's into traps and so forth.Dangerous Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11494853825931603065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441824499938029576.post-49189989716651013342011-05-04T14:40:32.981-07:002011-05-04T14:40:32.981-07:00You may want to read CONQUEST: The Roman Invasion ...You may want to read CONQUEST: The Roman Invasion of Britain by Jon Peddie - it's very good on the logistics side of things.<br /><br />Each ship carried 80 men - a maniple essentially. Whilst cavalry was carried in Turmaes of 30 horses/men. 60 ships would carry the infantry element of a Legion. Approx 1 ton of supplies could be carried ina supply vessel and the Romans needed 3lb of grain per man per day. etc etc etc<br /><br />Cheers<br />MarkMarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13835446049246785287noreply@blogger.com